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  • Scott Hugh Alexandar Petersen 349 posts 164 karma points
    Feb 04, 2010 @ 12:21
    Scott Hugh Alexandar Petersen
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    How much can it take?

    I have been thinking setting up an Umbraco solution which should handle about 50 websites - reason why I would set it up like this is this way I do not have to remember logins for everybody and won't have to login each time I need something done.

    However, I am uncertain whether it is a good idea. They will probably run different stylesheets many of them and also different templates as well as document types.

    Anyone have this kind of experience with Umbraco?

    Thank you.

    Scott

  • Laurence Gillian 600 posts 1219 karma points
    Feb 04, 2010 @ 12:29
    Laurence Gillian
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    You could use active directory to manage one login for 50 Umbraco installs?

  • Sebastiaan Janssen 5060 posts 15522 karma points MVP admin hq
    Feb 04, 2010 @ 12:32
    Sebastiaan Janssen
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    Doesn't seem like a great idea. You could just make the admin username/password the same for each site (I know it's a security risk, but so is running 50 websites behind one login, that's probably even worse of a risk).

    The multisite features of Umbraco are really meant for running a few sites with similar lay-out and functionality, not for your password convenience.. ;-)

  • Scott Hugh Alexandar Petersen 349 posts 164 karma points
    Feb 04, 2010 @ 12:38
    Scott Hugh Alexandar Petersen
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    Okay, all the sites belong to me, however some of the sites which will be member sites will have a login but using the member functionality to login.

    So they are not sites of clients.

    Layout will probably not be similar.

    @Sebastiaan Janssen What kind of security risk do you think of?

  • Richard Soeteman 4046 posts 12899 karma points MVP 2x
    Feb 04, 2010 @ 13:48
    Richard Soeteman
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    Scott,

    If the layout is not similar, those 50 sites will be a maintenance nightmare. So I would implement 50 different sites using a different membership provider such as Active Directory, Open ID, Custom made whatever.

    Cheers,

    Richard

  • Sebastiaan Janssen 5060 posts 15522 karma points MVP admin hq
    Feb 04, 2010 @ 15:25
    Sebastiaan Janssen
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    Scott: the risk of having a compromised password, when they know one login, they know them all.

  • Lee Kelleher 4026 posts 15836 karma points MVP 13x admin c-trib
    Feb 04, 2010 @ 16:09
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  • Rik Helsen 670 posts 873 karma points
    Feb 04, 2010 @ 16:11
    Rik Helsen
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    doesn't this induce issues if one of the sites goes high-traffic and you need to migrate it to a dedicated server ?

  • Scott Hugh Alexandar Petersen 349 posts 164 karma points
    Feb 05, 2010 @ 14:32
    Scott Hugh Alexandar Petersen
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    @Rik good question.

    I believe that i will have to create about an installation for each and see how to bind all of them together in the end so that I have one point of entry. I could use the open id and then have a liste of all the sites in an admin area where a direct link to the backend is located and that way control it. I think this is the best solutions.

    Thank you very much all of you for your input.

    Scott

  • Lee Kelleher 4026 posts 15836 karma points MVP 13x admin c-trib
    Feb 05, 2010 @ 14:37
    Lee Kelleher
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    Hi Scott,

    I haven't tried this myself, but if it's just content changes that you would need to make across the 50+ Umbraco installs, then how's about using some app like Windows Live Writer?

    http://umbraco.org/documentation/books/using-livewriter

    http://www.nibble.be/?p=13

    There might be other client software that will allow you to connect via the MetaWeblog API?

    Cheers, Lee.

  • Scott Hugh Alexandar Petersen 349 posts 164 karma points
    Feb 12, 2010 @ 21:09
    Scott Hugh Alexandar Petersen
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    Hi Lee,

    I have been trying the LiveWriter and it works great, however I am not sure that it serves my needs because it is essential that the user can create a tree structure which is for what I know currently not possible (please correct me if I am wrong).

    But I think anyways that I will have to use 50+ installations for this matter and then I will use some openid to verify password. I will just collect all the sites in one admin ui so that I have OPOE. This way I have the overview anyways.

    Thank you for the thought Lee. Much appreciated.

    Scott

  • Paul Blair 466 posts 731 karma points
    Feb 12, 2010 @ 23:29
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    If they were brochure type sites then you can get away with it. But even then 50 sites would be pushing it logistically and I would be tempted to use no more than 5-10.

    And once you use some package e.g. for blogging, you should think about moving that to a seperate stand alone installation.

    Cheers

    Paul

     

  • Scott Hugh Alexandar Petersen 349 posts 164 karma points
    Feb 13, 2010 @ 22:01
    Scott Hugh Alexandar Petersen
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    Yeah that I have found out as well, as soon as just a tiny bit is to be customized it has to be either highly configurable for the user or a template hell for the developer.

    So I am going for 50 separate solutions.

    Thanks Paul.

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