We are a software company
developing umbraco solutions and in the last two month we have used the
newsletter system called campaign monitor.
What i would like to
hear is if anybody, other than me would like and integrated section for
campaign monitor inside umbraco, and if yes, is people willing to pay
if its good and nice to work with, or do you use other free newsletter
solutions to do all this.
Let me hear your thoughts on this and if any extra ideas :)
It would be great if such a solution will be available. I think this is one of the packages that people want to buy, at least I will.. Currently there is only a free solution (which is good for my needs atm) and I know lots of people are using MailChimp and I have seen some screenshots of a mailchimp implementation in Umbraco.
I'm sure there's room for a commercial version of this, but... I've heard from twitter sources that people are working on an open source umbraco esp integration (and might not be limited to only one esp). Don't know about the current status, even think development hasn't started (so you can still be the first on the 'market')
It would indeed be a killer package people are willing to buy. Me too have been looking into such a package, but up until now haven't found time for developing such a solution. I might still do it.
CampaignMonitor integration would indeed be a killer app for Umbraco, especially since the current solution is extremely limited (you shouldn't use it for 500+ recipients). It is definately something I would pay for!
I've also heard the rumors on Twitter that someone is considering developing a free version, scheduled for release late this year. However the feature set of this is yet to be revealed, so there might easily be room for a feature rich payed version of this also.
A Twitter search reveals that @neils13 may be working on something, but I don't know if it is something he's planning on releasing. I may very well be remembering it wrong, but wasn't it @uniquelau who mentioned that he was thinking of making a free version?
Thanks for your quick reply. Hope neils13 and uniquelau will join the thread and discuss what to do :)
There are several ways of doing the integration. A complete integration with all the features or just the most needed and then the rest can be used at the campaign monitor homepage.
About the paymet for this i have thought of 2 ways and would like to hear your needs and what you think is best.
1 option:
I have a master user at campaign monitor and all umbraco solutions that what to use the package will get it free, but the customers who want to send newsletters has to be registered as a customer to me. In that way I will take care of the invoices to the customer and as said the package will be free.
2 option:
The package will cost a 1 time amount ( what would you pay for at full feature package of campaign monitor? ) and then you will have to create your own master user at campaign monitor and handle the invoice and buying of credits for your customer.
I would love a fully integrated Campaign Monitor package for Umbraco. A free, low-feature option, with a paid-for fully-featured option would appeal most to me. Payment as a single one-off cost (option 2 above) would definitely be the the better of the two options above IMO.
And have customers decide what esp to use? CampaignMonitor is great, but not the only one in the market. How about MailChimp, ConstantContact (and others...). I even know some Belgian esp's as well which will be the esp of choice for companies here in Belgium (Have had a request before!)
I agree that we could start with a single esp integration, but keep extensibility in mind! I'm even willing to give some helping hands in coding the stuff (if it's going open source, otherwise I can create the commercial package myself :p )
This is cool. Even if someone made an open source ESP it's one of the most frustrating things to get working properly - especially when it comes to spam checking (both ensuring that the mails sent is as clean as possible, but also the whole server setup), so that's one of the areas where I really think that CM and MailChimp are worth the $ despite potential free offerings.
An integration with one of these would be very sweet!
AFAIK, nope, no one has started development on this. I know of some initiiatives or people having expressed their intent of creating such a plugin (including me), but not sure about the status of those. Mine = planning phase. Have communicated with a few people over email, but haven't received any feedback yet.
Can I just clarify which pieces of campaign monitor people are looking to port? Is it just the reporting via the API or the template/newsletter editing.
Campaign monitor IMHO has one of the best interfaces out there, especially the newsletter editor, recreating this would be a hard task I imagine?
Here's my idea: esp should do what it's best at: managing email (including opt-in, opt-out, bounces, ...) All other stuff can be managed from within umbraco using the esp's api (sync'ing of members, managing lists, campaigns, newsletter creation, ...)
Purpose of the integration is that client should not have to go to the esp's (web) interface, and most of the esp's allow for such integration as they have great api!
Sounds like a great idea in principle, I had a quick look at the API and it seems all is achievable.
Will be interesting to see where this goes.
The only downside of CM for my clients is that it works out too expensive for people that send over 5,000 emails once a week. Shame they don't have a 'one off monthly fee' like MailChimp, but maybe that's not a discussion for here.
I think it is a discussion, as I'd aim at integrating ANY esp, not only CampaignMonitor. Most of the esp's have similar api, so it would be great to have a provider model for esp integration. Of course, starting off with a first one would the way to go..
Campaign monitor newletter integration
Hi everybody reading this post.
We are a software company developing umbraco solutions and in the last two month we have used the newsletter system called campaign monitor.
What i would like to hear is if anybody, other than me would like and integrated section for campaign monitor inside umbraco, and if yes, is people willing to pay if its good and nice to work with, or do you use other free newsletter solutions to do all this.
Let me hear your thoughts on this and if any extra ideas :)
Hi Anders,
It would be great if such a solution will be available. I think this is one of the packages that people want to buy, at least I will.. Currently there is only a free solution (which is good for my needs atm) and I know lots of people are using MailChimp and I have seen some screenshots of a mailchimp implementation in Umbraco.
Good luck with your integration
Cheers,
Richard
Hi Anders,
I'm sure there's room for a commercial version of this, but... I've heard from twitter sources that people are working on an open source umbraco esp integration (and might not be limited to only one esp). Don't know about the current status, even think development hasn't started (so you can still be the first on the 'market')
It would indeed be a killer package people are willing to buy. Me too have been looking into such a package, but up until now haven't found time for developing such a solution. I might still do it.
Cheers,
/Dirk
CampaignMonitor integration would indeed be a killer app for Umbraco, especially since the current solution is extremely limited (you shouldn't use it for 500+ recipients). It is definately something I would pay for!
I've also heard the rumors on Twitter that someone is considering developing a free version, scheduled for release late this year. However the feature set of this is yet to be revealed, so there might easily be room for a feature rich payed version of this also.
A Twitter search reveals that @neils13 may be working on something, but I don't know if it is something he's planning on releasing. I may very well be remembering it wrong, but wasn't it @uniquelau who mentioned that he was thinking of making a free version?
/SoerenS
Thanks for your quick reply. Hope neils13 and uniquelau will join the thread and discuss what to do :)
There are several ways of doing the integration. A complete integration with all the features or just the most needed and then the rest can be used at the campaign monitor homepage.
About the paymet for this i have thought of 2 ways and would like to hear your needs and what you think is best.
1 option:
I have a master user at campaign monitor and all umbraco solutions that what to use the package will get it free, but the customers who want to send newsletters has to be registered as a customer to me. In that way I will take care of the invoices to the customer and as said the package will be free.
2 option:
The package will cost a 1 time amount ( what would you pay for at full feature package of campaign monitor? ) and then you will have to create your own master user at campaign monitor and handle the invoice and buying of credits for your customer.
I would love a fully integrated Campaign Monitor package for Umbraco. A free, low-feature option, with a paid-for fully-featured option would appeal most to me. Payment as a single one-off cost (option 2 above) would definitely be the the better of the two options above IMO.
Excited!
And have customers decide what esp to use? CampaignMonitor is great, but not the only one in the market. How about MailChimp, ConstantContact (and others...). I even know some Belgian esp's as well which will be the esp of choice for companies here in Belgium (Have had a request before!)
I agree that we could start with a single esp integration, but keep extensibility in mind! I'm even willing to give some helping hands in coding the stuff (if it's going open source, otherwise I can create the commercial package myself :p )
Cheers,
/Dirk
This is cool. Even if someone made an open source ESP it's one of the most frustrating things to get working properly - especially when it comes to spam checking (both ensuring that the mails sent is as clean as possible, but also the whole server setup), so that's one of the areas where I really think that CM and MailChimp are worth the $ despite potential free offerings.
An integration with one of these would be very sweet!
Nice to see the great big umbraco people think this is an interesting package.
Dirk you say you can make the commercial package your self. Would you be interested in make the commercial package in a join venture with us?
The open source free version would be great, but maybe it could be possible to make a light version of the commercial version that is free.
@Anders: Shoot me an e-mail at dirk at netaddicts dot be
Cheers,
/Dirk
Has there been any development on this integration? I'd be willing to pay for this...
Amir,
AFAIK, nope, no one has started development on this. I know of some initiiatives or people having expressed their intent of creating such a plugin (including me), but not sure about the status of those. Mine = planning phase. Have communicated with a few people over email, but haven't received any feedback yet.
Cheers,
/Dirk
Can I just clarify which pieces of campaign monitor people are looking to port? Is it just the reporting via the API or the template/newsletter editing.
Campaign monitor IMHO has one of the best interfaces out there, especially the newsletter editor, recreating this would be a hard task I imagine?
Rich,
Here's my idea: esp should do what it's best at: managing email (including opt-in, opt-out, bounces, ...) All other stuff can be managed from within umbraco using the esp's api (sync'ing of members, managing lists, campaigns, newsletter creation, ...)
Purpose of the integration is that client should not have to go to the esp's (web) interface, and most of the esp's allow for such integration as they have great api!
Other ideas?
Cheers,
/Dirk
Hi Dirk,
Sounds like a great idea in principle, I had a quick look at the API and it seems all is achievable.
Will be interesting to see where this goes.
The only downside of CM for my clients is that it works out too expensive for people that send over 5,000 emails once a week. Shame they don't have a 'one off monthly fee' like MailChimp, but maybe that's not a discussion for here.
Rich
I think it is a discussion, as I'd aim at integrating ANY esp, not only CampaignMonitor. Most of the esp's have similar api, so it would be great to have a provider model for esp integration. Of course, starting off with a first one would the way to go..
Cheers,
/Dirk
hi,
whats the status?
cant wait to spend my money on such a pacage.
hope the project isnt dead.
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