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  • Bobby Wallace 37 posts 58 karma points
    Dec 18, 2011 @ 21:39
    Bobby Wallace
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    Umbraco 5 Alpha 1 - Missing /install

    My apologies if this is a duplicate post, but I've have been searching through the forum to no avail...

    I "simply" downloaded the Zip file, and unziped it, but there is no install directory. Therefore http://localhost/install (actually http://Umbraco/install) does not work.

    I'm sure I am missing something simple, but can someone please help?

    Thanks in advance,
    -Bobby

     

  • Jan Skovgaard 11280 posts 23678 karma points MVP 10x admin c-trib
    Dec 18, 2011 @ 22:03
    Jan Skovgaard
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    Hi Bobby

    you should simply just go to http://localhost/ and if you have all dependencies etc. you should be met by the installation screen.

    I supose it's beta 1 you have downloaded and not Alpha 1, right? :)

    /Jan

  • Sebastiaan Janssen 5045 posts 15477 karma points MVP admin hq
    Dec 18, 2011 @ 22:32
    Sebastiaan Janssen
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    I do hope, like Jan said, that it's Beta 1 you've downloaded. :-)

    The install instructions on Codeplex are actually wrong, what I would recommend you to do is to download WebMatrix and do the following:

    - Download Beta 1
    - Right click the zip file and make sure to Unblock it if needed
    - Unzip the file somewhere (for example: D:\Dev\Umbraco5Beta1\)
    - Right-click the Umbraco5Beta1 folder where the files have been unzipped and choose Run as Website in Webmatrix

    This will spin up a copy of IIS Express and when you hit Run you should immediately get the install wizard (I recommend choosing SQL CE there, it's the easiest way).

     

  • Bobby Wallace 37 posts 58 karma points
    Dec 18, 2011 @ 22:53
    Bobby Wallace
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    I will be happy to follow Sebastiaan's instructions, but I am curious as to why you would suggest to use IIS Express when IIS is on the machine.

    Also, I am looking to move this project up to the web immediately so others can play along with me, so I need a good way to deploy.

    And SQL CE is not available on the web, so I hope SQL 2008 is not a problem.

    Thanks for your help,
    -Bobby 

  • Sebastiaan Janssen 5045 posts 15477 karma points MVP admin hq
    Dec 18, 2011 @ 22:57
    Sebastiaan Janssen
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    No problem, you can use IIS as well, easiest would be to set up a virtual directory or if you want to, set up a new site with a proper host name. In any case, as Jan said, go to the root of your new site instead of /install and you'll get the install wizard.

    SQL 2008 is not a problem at all, create a new database ahead of time and make sure you have a username and password for it. 

    As far as I know, SQL CE should be available to anyone though, as I believe it's just a dll, it shouldn't need to be installed (I may be mistaken there!).

  • Bobby Wallace 37 posts 58 karma points
    Dec 18, 2011 @ 23:03
    Bobby Wallace
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    Ok, I hope you don't mind, but I will continue to post the problems as I see them and continue to search for answers:

    This configuration section cannot be used at this path. This happens when the section is locked at a parent level. Locking is either by default (overrideModeDefault="Deny"), or set explicitly by a location tag with overrideMode="Deny" or the legacy allowOverride="false".  

    Config Source:

     150: </modules>  151: <handlers> 152: <remove name="DependencyHandler"/> 
    
  • Sebastiaan Janssen 5045 posts 15477 karma points MVP admin hq
    Dec 18, 2011 @ 23:09
    Sebastiaan Janssen
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    No problem, I think this is something in the configuration of your hosting provider, not sure you can change this by yourself, have a read here: 

    http://forums.asp.net/t/1220987.aspx

    Looks like this would be the solution: 

     To correct error I changed the following values located in the applicationHost.config file located in Windows\system32\inetsrv.

    Change all of the following values located in section <configSections> --> <sectionGroup name="system.webServer">

    • <section name="handlers" overrideModeDefault="Deny" /> change this value from "Deny" to "Allow"
    • <section name="modules" allowDefinition="MachineToApplication" overrideModeDefault="Deny" /> change this value from "Deny" to "Allow"

     

  • Bobby Wallace 37 posts 58 karma points
    Dec 18, 2011 @ 23:12
    Bobby Wallace
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    At the risk of appearing to have two things going on here at once, any thoughts about moving this to the web? 

    I'll modify as suggested and continue...

  • Sebastiaan Janssen 5045 posts 15477 karma points MVP admin hq
    Dec 18, 2011 @ 23:14
    Sebastiaan Janssen
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    Not sure what you mean, but this is "just" and asp.net MVC3 site, so if your webhosting provider supports that, it should run just fine over there...

  • Bobby Wallace 37 posts 58 karma points
    Dec 18, 2011 @ 23:24
    Bobby Wallace
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    Hmmmm MVC3? .NET 4 is there, but I don't know about MVC3. If I try and run it up there (http://connectinfo.net.wsp110110.clientnshosting.net/), I get:

    403 - Forbidden: Access is denied.

    You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials that you supplied. 

    and I have checked the permissions, so something tells me that MVC3 is not available and all of this little excercise was for not.

     

    Any thoughts?
    -Bobby

  • Sebastiaan Janssen 5045 posts 15477 karma points MVP admin hq
    Dec 18, 2011 @ 23:27
    Sebastiaan Janssen
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    Thoughts: find a hosting provider that does have MVC3 available? ;-)

    Sorry, nothing there, I am used to running my own servers. I would give your hosting provider a call and ask them what's going on.

  • Bobby Wallace 37 posts 58 karma points
    Dec 18, 2011 @ 23:53
    Bobby Wallace
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    unfortunately, changing my hosting provider is not an option. sounds like we need to stick to the latest stable version. thank you again for all of your help. i look forward to building my first site with umbraco

  • Bobby Wallace 37 posts 58 karma points
    Dec 19, 2011 @ 00:28
    Bobby Wallace
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    Sebastiaan - it seems that you are a wealth of information regarding Umbraco, so I hope you don't mind if I continue here...

    Finding another hosting provider is not really an option. I am a hosting reseller, and... well... my provider has my business for the time being. I will send them a message and hopefully they will load MVC3 for me.

    Based upon you input, I believe it is best to stick with 4.7.1 because I have had some luck installing that version. Now, why it runs so well under IIS Express and not IIS is a little confusing, but I need to build a quick web site to prove feasibility. 

  • Bobby Wallace 37 posts 58 karma points
    Dec 19, 2011 @ 00:39
    Bobby Wallace
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    Ok... it works under WebMatrix, not under IIS, nor on my hosting provider. In the interest of time, the online installation is what matters most. From http://connectinfo.net.wsp110110.clientnshosting.net/, I get:

    500 - Internal server error.

    There is a problem with the resource you are looking for, and it cannot be displayed.

     

    I will continue my search on here, but any insight would be greatly appreciated.

  • Sebastiaan Janssen 5045 posts 15477 karma points MVP admin hq
    Dec 20, 2011 @ 08:22
    Sebastiaan Janssen
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    Is this for 4.7.1 or for 5.0?

    This is just a "friendly" error and that tells me nothing at all, so if you can find a way to get the "real" exception that would be helpful. Try setting customErrors to Off for now on that server.

  • Bobby Wallace 37 posts 58 karma points
    Dec 20, 2011 @ 14:55
    Bobby Wallace
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    Sebastiaan,

    As I mention in a prior post, I went to 4.7.1 because I cannot control the web deployment environment and I question whether MVC is installed.

    But thank you again for all of your help,
    -Bobby 

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