I must decide to choose CMS for my client's website. I love .NET & MSSQL so I'm considering to create this site using Umbraco. It would be my first project in Umbraco. My knowledge about developing site in Umbraco, available packages, using content as a editor, efficiency is very theoretical so I've couple questions about this.
Firstly I try to describe website assumptions:
1. Site for big cosmetics agency
2. Multilingual (20+ languages) - its very important here
3. Content: trends in Fashion (articles, multimedia); presentation of products; commenting articles&products&trends; FAQ; quizes; polls; uploading images by users, voting, winning; newsletters; blog
My questions:
1. Is it good idea to create this type of site in Umbraco? Maybe you know about some Umbraco's limitation considering my assumptions. Maybe you know some example site (sites) with similar functionality created in Umbraco.
2. Is it possible to create the project (designing, developing, testing, ...) by specialists (templates, document types, macros, styles, ...) and give it as a tool for people without knowing HTML tags, C#, styles - based on my assumptions. Umbraco apears to be great solution for developers but for editors - I dont know...
3. How about multilingual functionality in Umbraco? Is it any ready (released) package or built-in stuff provided this?
4. How many (and which exactly) of listed assumptions are not ready (as packages) in Umbraco and I'll have to create it from scratch?
5. How about mailer (mail engine) http://www.nibble.be/?p=63. Is it possible using it to make mailing to 50.000 users? Is it possible to make some statistics using this package (in example: how many customers did receive the email, how many of them did open it, etc.)?
I'll be very grateful for answering on my questions. If you have any sugestions, doubts, comments - please wirte it.
Umbraco can certainly handle this kind of site. I would have no hesitation building such a site with umbraco if a client asked me to do so. Especially the ability to build a site that lets non-technical content editors keep the site up to date... that just screams "build it in umbraco!" to me.
Having said that, you will need think about your architecture choices carefully since this is obviously a very large and heavily trafficed site. Again, umbraco is a good choice and you'll find that large, multi-lingual sites are not uncommon for umbraco installations. Multi-lingual handling is built-in to umbraco, as is support for multi-server load-balanced sites. See http://umbraco.org/tour/sites-running-umbraco, for just a few.
You will need to create some event handlers, a few custom .net controls, and possibly a datatype or two, based on what you've described. For much of this you will be able to find existing packages and source code to modify to meet your specific requirements. All of these require some knowledge of the umbraco api and .net (C#, VB.NET, whatever). But (and this is important), you'll create these custom features without needing to recompile the umbraco web application or make any core changes to umbraco. That's one of the great things about umbraco; it is very easy to extend.
I would use a specialized email engine for bulk emails. Not that you can't do it yourself with the mail engine described by Tim at nibble.be, but simply because bulk emails are often marked as spam and handling bad addresses, spam issues, getting reports, etc. is worthy of a specialist in my opinion.
If you win this project I would highly recommend you and your staff attend the umbraco level 1 training and that at least some of your developers attend the level 2 training. A subscription to umbraco.tv would also be a wise investment. You might also wish to arrange some architectural advising to ensure you get this site started in the right way.
Hi Gelow i think Umbraco is suitable for this, there are some nice Samples from multilingual sites and multilanguage is a standard feature of Umbraco.
About the mailer, i am not sure or it is a good idea to manage that many users in Umbraco and or a CMS, my expierence is that using dedicated mail software is a better option, or even better outsource it to a company with good knowledge about email-marketing.
I've question about licencing Umbraco because Im not sure to understand it in right way.
I'm interesting in:
1. Build the site and sell it to my client. I dont want to have Umbraco logo at front pages. People who visit site dont know that it is Umbraco website. I dont want to recompile/change framework just build site using available packages, api's and other tools.
2. Personalise backend site for editors and admins i.e. place in backed client's logo, additional texts, maybe change colors.
1. is legal without buying a special license. You can output on the front-pages whatever you want without having a license. (no need to display the umbraco-logo there)
You also don't need to recompile the source for this. Just download the binaries and you're good to go.
2. You will need a special license for that. With the free version, you not allowed to modify the back-end. This is what the umbraco-site says:
"I want to resell umbraco under a different name or sell it as apart of a bundle.
Then you would need atleast umbraco Pro without any support attached to it, as you cannot rebrand the open source version"
Hope this clarifies things, if not, feel free to ask further!
Question about choosing right CMS
Hi Guys,
I must decide to choose CMS for my client's website. I love .NET & MSSQL so I'm considering to create this site using Umbraco. It would be my first project in Umbraco. My knowledge about developing site in Umbraco, available packages, using content as a editor, efficiency is very theoretical so I've couple questions about this.
Firstly I try to describe website assumptions:
1. Site for big cosmetics agency
2. Multilingual (20+ languages) - its very important here
3. Content: trends in Fashion (articles, multimedia); presentation of products; commenting articles&products&trends; FAQ; quizes; polls; uploading images by users, voting, winning; newsletters; blog
My questions:
1. Is it good idea to create this type of site in Umbraco? Maybe you know about some Umbraco's limitation considering my assumptions. Maybe you know some example site (sites) with similar functionality created in Umbraco.
2. Is it possible to create the project (designing, developing, testing, ...) by specialists (templates, document types, macros, styles, ...) and give it as a tool for people without knowing HTML tags, C#, styles - based on my assumptions. Umbraco apears to be great solution for developers but for editors - I dont know...
3. How about multilingual functionality in Umbraco? Is it any ready (released) package or built-in stuff provided this?
4. How many (and which exactly) of listed assumptions are not ready (as packages) in Umbraco and I'll have to create it from scratch?
5. How about mailer (mail engine) http://www.nibble.be/?p=63. Is it possible using it to make mailing to 50.000 users? Is it possible to make some statistics using this package (in example: how many customers did receive the email, how many of them did open it, etc.)?
I'll be very grateful for answering on my questions. If you have any sugestions, doubts, comments - please wirte it.
Thanks a lot,
G.
Umbraco can certainly handle this kind of site. I would have no hesitation building such a site with umbraco if a client asked me to do so. Especially the ability to build a site that lets non-technical content editors keep the site up to date... that just screams "build it in umbraco!" to me.
Having said that, you will need think about your architecture choices carefully since this is obviously a very large and heavily trafficed site. Again, umbraco is a good choice and you'll find that large, multi-lingual sites are not uncommon for umbraco installations. Multi-lingual handling is built-in to umbraco, as is support for multi-server load-balanced sites. See http://umbraco.org/tour/sites-running-umbraco, for just a few.
You will need to create some event handlers, a few custom .net controls, and possibly a datatype or two, based on what you've described. For much of this you will be able to find existing packages and source code to modify to meet your specific requirements. All of these require some knowledge of the umbraco api and .net (C#, VB.NET, whatever). But (and this is important), you'll create these custom features without needing to recompile the umbraco web application or make any core changes to umbraco. That's one of the great things about umbraco; it is very easy to extend.
I would use a specialized email engine for bulk emails. Not that you can't do it yourself with the mail engine described by Tim at nibble.be, but simply because bulk emails are often marked as spam and handling bad addresses, spam issues, getting reports, etc. is worthy of a specialist in my opinion.
If you win this project I would highly recommend you and your staff attend the umbraco level 1 training and that at least some of your developers attend the level 2 training. A subscription to umbraco.tv would also be a wise investment. You might also wish to arrange some architectural advising to ensure you get this site started in the right way.
cheers,
doug.
Hi Gelow i think Umbraco is suitable for this, there are some nice Samples from multilingual sites and multilanguage is a standard feature of Umbraco.
About the mailer, i am not sure or it is a good idea to manage that many users in Umbraco and or a CMS, my expierence is that using dedicated mail software is a better option, or even better outsource it to a company with good knowledge about email-marketing.
Thanks for your replies,
I've question about licencing Umbraco because Im not sure to understand it in right way.
I'm interesting in:
1. Build the site and sell it to my client. I dont want to have Umbraco logo at front pages. People who visit site dont know that it is Umbraco website. I dont want to recompile/change framework just build site using available packages, api's and other tools.
2. Personalise backend site for editors and admins i.e. place in backed client's logo, additional texts, maybe change colors.
Is it legal without buying special licence?
1. is legal without buying a special license. You can output on the front-pages whatever you want without having a license. (no need to display the umbraco-logo there)
You also don't need to recompile the source for this. Just download the binaries and you're good to go.
2. You will need a special license for that. With the free version, you not allowed to modify the back-end. This is what the umbraco-site says:
"I want to resell umbraco under a different name or sell it as apart of a bundle.
Then you would need atleast umbraco Pro without any support attached to it, as you cannot rebrand the open source version"
Hope this clarifies things, if not, feel free to ask further!
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