Ive recently changed host for my installations and now some strange things have startened to happen with my new installations.
I have two installations Umbraco 4.5.2 that sometimes and without any reason gets unpublished. The page gets redirected to the no-node-splash and when I republishes the entire site, the site starts to work again.
I dont think any user have changed anything on the websites.
On one of the installation i sometimes get "An error occurred while processing your request" and when i republish it works again..
Check your permissions also is the host using sql express? If so after certain time period the db goes into standby then when request is made it fires up again. How often are these sites being hit?
The host is using MS SQL 2008 so that shouldnt be the problem. But the permissions could be the thing. Ive given full permissions on the config-folder. The data-folder had full permissions. Should the config-folder have full permissions?
Do I need to set more permissions on more folders?
The host also says that they have a problem with sites loading slow the first time if the site has not been visited for a while. Must be some sort of standby?
I have just republished a 4.5.2 site which did exactly the same thing, It also happened a week or so ago on the same site. Once is odd, twice points to a problem somewhere. We are using SQL 2005, I don't think it is a standby mode issue as the content is there and visible in the admin area, ie. the database has no issue finding the content to display that material.
The public side of the site is either seeing the top level 'home' page as unpublished which would suppress everything underneath or all material as unpublished which is less likely as this would have to impact lots of DB records. Has anybody else seen a similar issue or found any resolution?
Check out these posts from Darren Ferguson, probably the same issue. It has to do with the DB not being available when the app
pool re/starts. He posted a workaround also. I do believe it's fixed in 4.6 but not positive
Just checked our logs and the server did reboot after an update in the early hours before the client noticed a problem. In our system the SQL server is actually on another box so Darrens idea of a race between IIS and SQL Server maybe doesn't work here. It is possible I guess that IIS is up before some networking component so that the call to the remote SQL Server instance doesn't connect then the same outcome will happen.
He suggests that it may be resolved in 4.6, is there a straighforward path from 4.5.2 to 4.6?
Regardless of what exactly is causing the issue, I think Darren's workaround should still work for you. Basically it modifies the noNodes page with a check, if no nodes are published it manually re-publishes which should workaround the issue.
I have the same "site becomes unpublished" problem using Umbraco 4.5.2. I am not confident that I can successfully alter my noNodes.aspx page myself using the code provided by Darren Freguson. Can someone please post the step by step instructions and example of how to modify noNodes.aspx to solve this problem?
Websites gets unpublished
Hi!
Ive recently changed host for my installations and now some strange things have startened to happen with my new installations.
I have two installations Umbraco 4.5.2 that sometimes and without any reason gets unpublished. The page gets redirected to the no-node-splash and when I republishes the entire site, the site starts to work again.
I dont think any user have changed anything on the websites.
On one of the installation i sometimes get "An error occurred while processing your request" and when i republish it works again..
Someone got a clue?
Check your permissions also is the host using sql express? If so after certain time period the db goes into standby then when request is made it fires up again. How often are these sites being hit?
Regards
Ismail
The host is using MS SQL 2008 so that shouldnt be the problem. But the permissions could be the thing. Ive given full permissions on the config-folder. The data-folder had full permissions. Should the config-folder have full permissions?
Do I need to set more permissions on more folders?
The host also says that they have a problem with sites loading slow the first time if the site has not been visited for a while. Must be some sort of standby?
Hi,
I have just republished a 4.5.2 site which did exactly the same thing, It also happened a week or so ago on the same site. Once is odd, twice points to a problem somewhere. We are using SQL 2005, I don't think it is a standby mode issue as the content is there and visible in the admin area, ie. the database has no issue finding the content to display that material.
The public side of the site is either seeing the top level 'home' page as unpublished which would suppress everything underneath or all material as unpublished which is less likely as this would have to impact lots of DB records. Has anybody else seen a similar issue or found any resolution?
I also have this same problem which has happened twice since the site has launched!!!!!
umbraco v 4.5.2 (Assembly version: 1.0.3891.20719)
Windows Server 2008
SQL 2008
Help would be great!
Hi,
Check out these posts from Darren Ferguson, probably the same issue. It has to do with the DB not being available when the app pool re/starts. He posted a workaround also. I do believe it's fixed in 4.6 but not positive
www.darren-ferguson.com/.../working-around-the-'no-nodes'-issue-with-umbraco-45x
our.umbraco.org/.../13649-Site-repeatedly-reverting-to-no-nodes-splash-page
-Tom
Hi,
Just checked our logs and the server did reboot after an update in the early hours before the client noticed a problem. In our system the SQL server is actually on another box so Darrens idea of a race between IIS and SQL Server maybe doesn't work here. It is possible I guess that IIS is up before some networking component so that the call to the remote SQL Server instance doesn't connect then the same outcome will happen.
He suggests that it may be resolved in 4.6, is there a straighforward path from 4.5.2 to 4.6?
Regards
Roger
Hi,
I have encountered the same problem in 4.6.1
An upgrade manual can be found here: http://our.umbraco.org/wiki/install-and-setup/upgrading-an-umbraco-installation
Kind regards
Hi Roger,
Regardless of what exactly is causing the issue, I think Darren's workaround should still work for you. Basically it modifies the noNodes page with a check, if no nodes are published it manually re-publishes which should workaround the issue.
-Tom
Thanks Tom,
I read Darrens blog but couldn't find the noNodes page in my installation, which folder is it in?
Sorry to be a pain
Roger
The noNodes page can be found under this directory: \config\splashes
I can confirm that this happens in 4.6.1 after a failed connection to the database.
I can't find this on codeplex anywhere, does anyone know if it's been added?
Hi Claire,
Here is the workitem - it was marked as resolved though. I think the fix may have been rolled into 4.6.2 (now 4.7) - can you give that a shot?
http://umbraco.codeplex.com/workitem/29833
Thanks,
Tom
I have the same "site becomes unpublished" problem using Umbraco 4.5.2. I am not confident that I can successfully alter my noNodes.aspx page myself using the code provided by Darren Freguson. Can someone please post the step by step instructions and example of how to modify noNodes.aspx to solve this problem?
Thanks, Jacqui
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