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  • Marcelo 18 posts 131 karma points
    Dec 17, 2018 @ 03:11
    Marcelo
    0

    Multilanguage and disableAlternativeTemplates feature

    Hello guys,

    I am facing a new challenge in umbraco, and I hope someone could help me, my structure today is (just an example):

    -Home 
        -Products
    

    Each page has the same template file, for exemple:

    • Home Page, has the template file Home.cshtml

    All my templates are strongly typed, example:

    @inherits Umbraco.Web.Mvc.UmbracoTemplatePage<Models.Home>
    

    I am using the multilanguage setup in umbraco, so I am able to access the urls like this:

    www.[domain]/
    www.[domain]/pt
    www.[domain]/en
    

    OK, So far so good, my issue starts when an user try to access the url like this:

    www.[domain]/products
    

    Because I am using the multilanguage the url: /products does not exist because the correct one would be /pt/products or /en/products.

    This is my FIRST question, is it possible to make umbraco "understand" that when the user write the url without the language flag it should open the page from the default language? I know I could use the property [umbracoUrlAlias], but with that property I would have to update ALL pages with a fixed URL Alias, which not seems to be a good approach.

    Let's get back to my example, when the user tries to access the url www.[domain]/products it returns an exception:

    Cannot bind source content type [Models.Home] to model content type [Models.Products]
    

    Digging a litle bit in internet I found that this behaviour was related with 'Alternative Tempates' feature from umbraco and I found out that it was possible to disable in 'umbracoSettings.config' 'disableAlternativeTemplates="true"'.

    Once I have disabled the Alternative Templates, when the user access the url like: www.[domain]/products no more exceptions happened, instead of the exception, it showed the Home page.

    I was expecting to happen this behaviour:
    www.[domain]/products -> 404 error
    www.[domain]/pt/products -> Products page
    www.[domain]/ [or] /pt -> Home Page
    

    My SECOND question is, is it possible to have this behaviour above?

    I am quite sure the users will eventually try to access the url without the language flag, and this error will happens, so for me my FIRST question is even more important than this SECOND.

    Sorry for the long text, but it is a complicated situation to explain in words.

  • Dave Woestenborghs 3126 posts 10183 karma points MVP 3x admin c-trib
    Dec 17, 2018 @ 06:22
    Dave Woestenborghs
    0

    Hi Marcelo,

    I think you will need to implement a content finder to handle the 404 in your case. https://our.umbraco.com/Documentation/Reference/Routing/Request-Pipeline/IContentFinder#notfoundhandlers

    Dave

  • Marcelo 18 posts 131 karma points
    Dec 17, 2018 @ 12:15
    Marcelo
    0

    Hi Dave,

    Thank you for reply, but I already implemented the content finder for custom 404 errors, my issue is:

    If 'disableAlternativeTemplates="true":

    - www.[domain]/products -> Retuns Home Page
    - www.[domain]/pt/products -> Returns Products page
    - www.[domain]/ [or] /pt -> Returns Home Page
    

    If 'disableAlternativeTemplates="false":

    - www.[domain]/products -> Retuns the Exception Cannot bind source content type [Models.Home] to model content type [Models.Products] (Because umbraco tries to apply the Products template to my Home page, which is strongly typed)
    - www.[domain]/pt/products -> Returns Products page
    - www.[domain]/ [or] /pt -> Returns Home Page
    

    Desired behaviours are:

    - www.[domain]/products -> Returns Products page (For default language, without to have to set the property 'umbracoUrlAlias' for each page from my website)
    - www.[domain]/pt/products -> Returns Products page
    - www.[domain]/ [or] /pt -> Returns Home Page
    

    OR

    - www.[domain]/products -> Returns 404 error
    - www.[domain]/pt/products -> Returns Products page
    - www.[domain]/ [or] /pt -> Returns Home Page
    
  • Nik 1011 posts 4132 karma points MVP c-trib
    Dec 17, 2018 @ 12:27
    Nik
    0

    Hi Marcelo,

    What does your back office setup look like?

    Is it something along the lines of:

    Home
       > Products
             > Product A
             > Product B
    

    Then on Home you've configured multiple language cultures and domains?

    (sorry, just trying to clarify)

    Thanks

    Nik

  • Marcelo 18 posts 131 karma points
    Dec 17, 2018 @ 12:40
    Marcelo
    0

    Hi Nik,

    No problem, feel free to ask whatever you want :-)

    Yes, my back office setup looks like what you have said.

    I setup the multilanguage following the documentation tutorial: https://our.umbraco.com/documentation/Tutorials/Multilanguage-Setup/

    Thank you

  • Nik 1011 posts 4132 karma points MVP c-trib
    Dec 17, 2018 @ 13:30
    Nik
    0

    Hi Marcelo,

    So you have the following

    home
      > Products
            > product A
            > product B
    home - language 1
      > Products
           > product A
           > product B
    home - language 2
       > products
           > product A
           > product B
    

    Just to get a full idea of what the tree looks like, yes?

    Assuming yes, what language have you assigned to the default Home? Can you share a screenshot of what it looks like in the cultures and hostnames dialog?

    Thanks

    Nik

  • Marcelo 18 posts 131 karma points
    Dec 17, 2018 @ 13:39
    Marcelo
    0

    Actually no, my structure language is:

    home - language 1
      > Products
           > product A
           > product B
    home - language 2
       > products
           > product A
           > product B
    

    Here are the screenshots: enter image description here

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  • Nik 1011 posts 4132 karma points MVP c-trib
    Dec 17, 2018 @ 13:45
    Nik
    100

    Interesting, okay.. so I don't know if this would work but what I would do is:

    on the pt-br home I would add 2 domains

    domain.com/
    domain.com/pt
    

    Both of which would have the pt language.

    Then on the en-US homenode I'd set the domain as follows

    domain.com/en
    

    This should then allow all the pages to work as they should I believe.

    The one thing to watch out for on the pt-br node is you need to consider which of those is the primary domain, the one with just the / or the one with /pt ... then you should tweak your template to put the correct canonical tag into the page to prevent SEO duplication issues.

  • Marcelo 18 posts 131 karma points
    Dec 17, 2018 @ 14:17
    Marcelo
    0

    Hi Nik

    Thank you, it worked as expected with your settings.

    But, to be honest I have one concern about this solution:

    1 - There is the follow message:

    Valid domain names are: "example.com", "www.example.com", "example.com:8080" or "https://www.example.com/". One-level paths in domains are supported, eg. "example.com/en". However, they should be avoided. Better use the culture setting above.

    and I got concerned with this phrase "However, they should be avoided. Better use the culture setting above." Why Umbraco says that this solution should be avoided? Is there any known side effect using this approach?

    Thank you

  • Nik 1011 posts 4132 karma points MVP c-trib
    Dec 17, 2018 @ 14:22
    Nik
    0

    Hi Marcelo,

    Honestly, I don't know. I've had no issues using the domain assignment approach personally in the few multi-lingal sites I've worked on.

    I think, but I'm not certain. The issue could relate to redirects and things like that but I've not come across any. Someone else might be able to shed light on any potential issues.

    Nik

  • Marcelo 18 posts 131 karma points
    Dec 17, 2018 @ 14:35
    Marcelo
    0

    I understood. Well I will use your solution and I hope no new problems show up :)

    Your solution fixed 90% of my problems, the only remained one is if I access the url, for example:

    www[domain]/Products/Home, it shows the page Products, instead of to show the Error 404 page, because of the feature of Alternative Template :(
    

    Anyway, at least is not showing Exceptions errors like before with the disableAlternativeTemplates="false"

    Thank you again

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