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  • Patrick Robin 34 posts 104 karma points
    Nov 04, 2015 @ 16:31
    Patrick Robin
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    Is there any decent documentation regarding package actions anywhere? Most of the the documentation and articles that I've found are either out of date or link to sites that don't exist anymore!

  • Donald Kerr 5 posts 75 karma points
    Oct 25, 2016 @ 19:26
    Donald Kerr
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    Bump.

    The link to "Package actions documentation" in the latest version, http://our.umbraco.org/wiki/reference/packaging/package-actions, comes up with a 404.

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    Oct 25, 2016 @ 19:30

    Yeah can't seem to find a working link anymore @Donald what are you trying to do (maybe I can assist with some tips)

  • Micha Somers 134 posts 597 karma points
    Feb 24, 2017 @ 13:35
    Micha Somers
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    In Umbraco 7.5.10, the link (Developer Section, Packages, on Package Actions tab) still points to the non-existing url:

    http://our.umbraco.org/wiki/reference/packaging/package-actions

    Is this link going to be fixed in a newer version of Umbraco?

    --

    I would like to get an idea on the kind of actions that are possible and how easy it is to define/implement them.

    Are there any alternative urls available that show examples about adding custom installer / uninstaller events to perform certain tasks during installation and uninstallation?

  • MuirisOG 382 posts 1283 karma points
    Mar 10, 2017 @ 16:13
    MuirisOG
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    Me too.

    I want to know if ExecuteSQL requires the Package Action Contrib package to be installed.

    I would prefer not, especially as I think the topics in the discussion below still hold true.

    https://our.umbraco.org/projects/backoffice-extensions/package-actions-contrib/using-the-package-action-contrib/11089-Best-way-to-use-Package-Actions-Contrib#comment-11089

  • Marc Love (uSkinned.net) 388 posts 1300 karma points
    Mar 24, 2017 @ 15:44
    Marc Love (uSkinned.net)
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    On a separate note it seems package actions are not compatible with Umbraco Cloud so we need to use an alternative approach now if you want your packages to install on Umbraco Cloud.

    Tea Commerce have already updated their installer because of this:

    https://docs.teacommerce.net/blog/release-320

  • Kevin Jump 2111 posts 13316 karma points MVP 5x c-trib
    Mar 24, 2017 @ 16:06
    Kevin Jump
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    yeah

    if you are adding sql during an install then you are better using Migrations (v7.3+)

    https://cultiv.nl/blog/using-umbraco-migrations-to-deploy-changes/

    as these work on Umbraco Cloud, are better for deployments and are will let your packages work both as a package and as a nuget package.

    K

  • Micha Somers 134 posts 597 karma points
    Mar 24, 2017 @ 16:21
    Micha Somers
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    Thanks Marc,

    Umbraco cloud might be a very valid reason not to support package actions any longer. And there may be many more good reasons...

    Do you know if this is already mentioned/announced anywhere?

    Just removing links without any explanation and still having "old" topics talking about them, makes it hard to know if they are still recommended for using in non cloud solutions.

    So, can someone from the Umbraco team shed a light on the future use of package actions and recommended alternative future proof approaches?

    Eg, is it recommended to bootstrap the install process on application load, just like Tea Commerce now does?

    Examples and ideas on how this is done, are more than welcome!

  • Marc Love (uSkinned.net) 388 posts 1300 karma points
    Mar 24, 2017 @ 16:23
    Marc Love (uSkinned.net)
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    Definitely looks like something is going on which hasn't been passed on to the community.

    'Developing Umbraco Packages' forum topic is in read only mode.

    https://our.umbraco.org/forum/umbraco-7/developing-umbraco-7-packages/

  • Kevin Jump 2111 posts 13316 karma points MVP 5x c-trib
    Mar 24, 2017 @ 16:47
    Kevin Jump
    2

    Hi

    I can't talk for the core team, but it is my understanding that the long term goal is to more towards Nuget packages being the default install method. how this will work in the back office i don't know - but i think a single source and that working in both Visual Studio and Umbraco is the ideal state.

    There where some discussions about packages at codegarden last year and that is certainly the impression I got. but i don't think there was an 'official' statement at any point.

    Migrations do all the databasey things you should ever need to do and are baked into umbraco, they are how umbraco upgrades are performed.

    Migrations them selves can be quite simple - you have a class that overrides the MigrationBase class and implements an Up (and down) function:

    e.g.

        public override void Up()
        {
            if (!_db.TableExist("PublishQueue"))
                _db.CreateTable<QueuedItem>(false);
        }
    

    see : https://github.com/KevinJump/Our.Umbraco.PublishQueue/blob/master/Our.Umbraco.PublishQueue/Migrations/TaregetZeroOne/CreateDbMigration.cs for full example

    then you hook into app startup events and get umbraco to run any migrations between the current version in the db and your desired target version :

    example here : https://github.com/KevinJump/Our.Umbraco.PublishQueue/blob/master/Our.Umbraco.PublishQueue/PublicQueueEventHandler.cs#L45

    As of yet there is no offical support for other things like config changes or adding doctypes in migrations but you can actually call the packaging service within a migration to add a doctype / etc..

    So for example. if you export your desired doctype as xml you can load it and call the packaging service.

    XElement docTypeXml = XElement.Load(filepath);      
    ApplicationContext.Current.Services.PackagingService.ImportContentTypes(docTypeXml);
    

    But you need to be aware of things like dependencies (i.e the parent doctypes needs to be imported first). which is something the package manager does for you.

  • Marc Love (uSkinned.net) 388 posts 1300 karma points
    Mar 24, 2017 @ 17:10
    Marc Love (uSkinned.net)
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    Hi Kevin,

    Thanks for the info, this is a great help. Thanks for the links.

    Cheers,

    Marc

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