I just recently started diggin' into to Umbraco and so far I'm really.. Digging it... da dum tss
Anyways! I just purchased a place on Unoeuro hoping to store my site there untill it's finished.
I uploaded my ENTIRE umbraco site to the server and it works fine. But I'm uncertain how to approach Umbraco at the state.
Do I have to download the entire umbraco solution to my PC, work on it and upload everything to the FTP?
And if I wan't to continue working from my laptop, will I have to download everything from the FTP again and reupload when finished, or can I simply store the Database online and only upload the files I've been working on?
EDIT
I can't seem to delete, rename nor replace the umbraco.sdf file in add_data on the server. So all the stuff I've made locally, can't be published on the server.
SOLUTION
For those who seek future help regarding uploading the database, here's what to do:
Install IIS Manager
If you don't have it installed, press START -> Search for Windows Features on/off
Find Internet Information Services
Open every "plus" and enable everything, then hit OK
Once installed, follow the directions from your host, in my example it's Unoeuro so I follow the link Dennis from this post provided: https://www.unoeuro.com/support/faq/asp/242/
Once you have connected to your site, Right-Click on your sitename -> Deploy -> Recycle -> In the popup, choose to "STOP the application"
Now you can upload your database through your FTP or however you wish
When the upload is complete, Right-Click on your sitename -> Deploy -> Recycle -> Start application
Hi Mike and welcome to the Umbraco developer forum :)
In order things not turning into a nightmare for you I suggest that you make sure to have a local site, which you then deploy to the server whenever you have been making any kind of changes.
So you will have a development environment and a live environment.
Whenever you have made a change then you can either upload it to the server using FTP or using wepdeploy, which unoeuro also supports. You can learn more here https://www.unoeuro.com/support/faq/asp/236/
When you make a change you don't necessarily need to upload everything. When you do your initial deploy (upload) then you will of course need to upload all the umbraco files etc. - But once that is done you will usually only need to upload changes to your css, javascript and your view files - And of course you will also need to upload the /bin folder if you make any kind of controllers etc. which will result in one or more new .dll files that you would also need on the server.
If you're having the site open at the same time you're trying to delete the CE SQL from the server then there is a connection to it and you won't be able to delete it. I can't remember if one can start and stop the site using the unoeuro control panel but if you can then try stopping the site. Then you should be able to delete it. Otherwise you perhaps need to get in touch with support.
In regards of doing FTP uploads and deploy's then I can't remember how well the CE SQL database is handled though.
I hope this makes sense? :) Otherwise feel free to ask as many questions as you need to.
Happy I was able to help - And glad you were able to interpret my response. Don't be afraid to simply say "Hey, can you please explain this another way" if something does not make sense. I won't bite and neither will any of the community members you will meet in here :)
Once you get more into Umbraco and how it works and depending on what kind of projects you're doing etc. you might also want to consider having a look at Umbraco As a service where, which is making deployments a breeze - But if it's a pet project and nothing that will scale to a larger project, have many visitors etc. then it will probably be overkill - But I think it's worth knowing about at least :)
Yes it was nice of Dennis to add the link to the faq entry - My experience with UnoEuro is that if you can't find information in their documentation then they're usually pretty fast at responding to your tickets if you should get stuck on something that you can't fix yourself.
Umbraco locally - database online
Hallo everyone,
I just recently started diggin' into to Umbraco and so far I'm really.. Digging it... da dum tss
Anyways! I just purchased a place on Unoeuro hoping to store my site there untill it's finished.
I uploaded my ENTIRE umbraco site to the server and it works fine. But I'm uncertain how to approach Umbraco at the state.
Do I have to download the entire umbraco solution to my PC, work on it and upload everything to the FTP?
And if I wan't to continue working from my laptop, will I have to download everything from the FTP again and reupload when finished, or can I simply store the Database online and only upload the files I've been working on?
EDIT I can't seem to delete, rename nor replace the umbraco.sdf file in add_data on the server. So all the stuff I've made locally, can't be published on the server.
SOLUTION For those who seek future help regarding uploading the database, here's what to do:
http://www.iis.net/downloads/microsoft/iis-managerand install the softwarehttps://www.unoeuro.com/support/faq/asp/242/Wait, and boom!:)
Install IIS Manager
Cheers! :)
Hi Mike and welcome to the Umbraco developer forum :)
In order things not turning into a nightmare for you I suggest that you make sure to have a local site, which you then deploy to the server whenever you have been making any kind of changes.
So you will have a development environment and a live environment.
Whenever you have made a change then you can either upload it to the server using FTP or using wepdeploy, which unoeuro also supports. You can learn more here https://www.unoeuro.com/support/faq/asp/236/
When you make a change you don't necessarily need to upload everything. When you do your initial deploy (upload) then you will of course need to upload all the umbraco files etc. - But once that is done you will usually only need to upload changes to your css, javascript and your view files - And of course you will also need to upload the /bin folder if you make any kind of controllers etc. which will result in one or more new .dll files that you would also need on the server.
If you're having the site open at the same time you're trying to delete the CE SQL from the server then there is a connection to it and you won't be able to delete it. I can't remember if one can start and stop the site using the unoeuro control panel but if you can then try stopping the site. Then you should be able to delete it. Otherwise you perhaps need to get in touch with support.
In regards of doing FTP uploads and deploy's then I can't remember how well the CE SQL database is handled though.
I hope this makes sense? :) Otherwise feel free to ask as many questions as you need to.
/Jan
Hi Mike, and yeah welcome to our :-)
For starting and stopping your website on Unoeuro try to see this article.
https://www.unoeuro.com/support/faq/asp/242/
Hope this helps,
/Dennis
First of all, high five to both of you for the quick and helpful respons.
It took a couple of reading to fully understand your response Jan but I finally wrapped my head around my own issue and the solution!
The information you shared combined with Dennis response was all I really needed so thank you both for that, I can finally move on!
Big thanks to both of you :o)
Hi Mike
Happy I was able to help - And glad you were able to interpret my response. Don't be afraid to simply say "Hey, can you please explain this another way" if something does not make sense. I won't bite and neither will any of the community members you will meet in here :)
Once you get more into Umbraco and how it works and depending on what kind of projects you're doing etc. you might also want to consider having a look at Umbraco As a service where, which is making deployments a breeze - But if it's a pet project and nothing that will scale to a larger project, have many visitors etc. then it will probably be overkill - But I think it's worth knowing about at least :)
Yes it was nice of Dennis to add the link to the faq entry - My experience with UnoEuro is that if you can't find information in their documentation then they're usually pretty fast at responding to your tickets if you should get stuck on something that you can't fix yourself.
Happy umbracoing!
/Jan
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