I have 2 menus, one for horizontal nav, the other for extra vertical nav.  Both trees start in the root. 

They work great, except if I try to force the home node on the first.  If forcehome is set to nothing, it works fine, if it's set to 0 or 1 (I want 1) then it's strange, but what happens is that when we're on one of the pages in the 2nd tree (the vertical, second nav), the first nav renders the structure of the 2nd tree.

That's really hard to explain, I hope it made sense.  Here's what I've got.

First menu:

<umbraco:macro startinglevel="1" recurse="1" selectbranches="1" maxmenudepth="2"
    ulbaseclass="horizontal" branchclass="selected" selectedclass="selected" forcenode="1111"
    forcehome="" expandchildren="0" alias="[COG]Navigation" runat="server">
</umbraco:macro>

Second menu

<umbraco:macro startinglevel="1" recurse="1" selectbranches="1" maxmenudepth="2"
    ulbaseclass="vertical" branchclass="selected" selectedclass="selected" forcenode="1184"
    forcehome="" expandchildren="1" alias="[COG]Navigation" runat="server">
</umbraco:macro>

This is the closest to what I want, but I want to force the home node on the first menu.

Is there a set of settings that will do this?  If not I guess I'll have to rethink structure or hack the xslt :-)