Umbraco newbie here. I'm editing a page to follow a content template, but this will also change the URL structure so I don't want to publish this yet.
The structure would look like this:
Old URL: umbraco.com/page
New: umbraco.com/blog/page
Would the automatic redirect be able to solve this and redirect from the old link with no setup required from me? Or do I have to install a package to manage redirects?
I'm an SEO person with very little technical knowledge and just started using Umbraco. Suffice it to say, learning this CMS has been very difficult for me vs the other usual ones. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
But one of the problems is that the editing experience can be wildly different between sites depending on how they have been implemented, one of Umbraco's strengths is its flexibility, but this can mean it's hard to present a generic 'how to edit' guide.
Anyway, yes, when you rename or move an existing published content page, then Umbraco will automatically create a 301 redirect from the Old Url to the New Url, for any published content affected by the change.
There should be in your install a 'Redirect Url Management' dashboard that shows all the redirects that are in place, and you can remove any rogue entries from here, created by any accidental rename.
But you can't manually 'create' redirects with this out-of-the-box dashboard, it only tracks changes... different implementations would facilitate the creation of redirects using different strategies over the years, probably the best third party package that handles manual redirects for V8 would be this one:
Thank you so much for this! I'll take a look into it and hopefully, I can understand more of how this CMS works :)
Anyway, yes, when you rename or move an existing published content page, then Umbraco will automatically create a 301 redirect from the Old Url to the New Url, for any published content affected by the change.
I guess my remaining question is, would this automatic redirect work even if I don't change the page node name and move content pages? These two seem to be the only instances where automatic redirects are used based on the Umbraco Youtube tutorials and forum I've come across.
In my case, the edited page would essentially be within the same folder and the navigational structure would still be the same. There would also be no changes to its page node name. It's just that its URL would be different.
If you don't change the page node name, and you don't move the page to a different folder, then I think it will still have the same Url?
So it depends on what might cause it to change its Url, if your site has a special way to override the core Url Segment for a page - there is a special property called umbracoUrlName you can add to the ContentType to enable this - then the automatic redirect should pick up on the change.
If it's a different custom thing that changes the Url then Umbraco might not know about it, and so not trigger the creation of the redirect.
In the content section you should have a Redirect Url Management dashboard, that lists all the redirects, so you could experiment with changing the Url, and seeing if a redirect is created there, and then changing it back if not!
301 redirect question
Hi,
Umbraco newbie here. I'm editing a page to follow a content template, but this will also change the URL structure so I don't want to publish this yet.
The structure would look like this:
Old URL: umbraco.com/page New: umbraco.com/blog/page
Would the automatic redirect be able to solve this and redirect from the old link with no setup required from me? Or do I have to install a package to manage redirects?
I'm an SEO person with very little technical knowledge and just started using Umbraco. Suffice it to say, learning this CMS has been very difficult for me vs the other usual ones. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Hi Maria
Sorry to hear you are having an unfriendly editing experience with Umbraco :-(
There used to be a set of videos for people new to editing with Umbraco, I think they may still be here: https://umbraco.tv/videos/umbraco-v8/content-editor/
But one of the problems is that the editing experience can be wildly different between sites depending on how they have been implemented, one of Umbraco's strengths is its flexibility, but this can mean it's hard to present a generic 'how to edit' guide.
Anyway, yes, when you rename or move an existing published content page, then Umbraco will automatically create a 301 redirect from the Old Url to the New Url, for any published content affected by the change.
There should be in your install a 'Redirect Url Management' dashboard that shows all the redirects that are in place, and you can remove any rogue entries from here, created by any accidental rename.
But you can't manually 'create' redirects with this out-of-the-box dashboard, it only tracks changes... different implementations would facilitate the creation of redirects using different strategies over the years, probably the best third party package that handles manual redirects for V8 would be this one:
https://our.umbraco.com/packages/website-utilities/skybrud-redirects/
Let's you create your own manual redirect rules, but still plays nicely with the out-of-the-box automatic tracking dashboard...
regards
Marc
Hi Marc
Thank you so much for this! I'll take a look into it and hopefully, I can understand more of how this CMS works :)
I guess my remaining question is, would this automatic redirect work even if I don't change the page node name and move content pages? These two seem to be the only instances where automatic redirects are used based on the Umbraco Youtube tutorials and forum I've come across.
In my case, the edited page would essentially be within the same folder and the navigational structure would still be the same. There would also be no changes to its page node name. It's just that its URL would be different.
Thanks a lot!
Hi Maria
If you don't change the page node name, and you don't move the page to a different folder, then I think it will still have the same Url?
So it depends on what might cause it to change its Url, if your site has a special way to override the core Url Segment for a page - there is a special property called umbracoUrlName you can add to the ContentType to enable this - then the automatic redirect should pick up on the change.
If it's a different custom thing that changes the Url then Umbraco might not know about it, and so not trigger the creation of the redirect.
In the content section you should have a Redirect Url Management dashboard, that lists all the redirects, so you could experiment with changing the Url, and seeing if a redirect is created there, and then changing it back if not!
regards
Marc
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