Hey Guys, sorry if this is in the wrong forum. I couldn't find where I should put this.
My Company is looking to re-do our website external website. We are using Moss 2007 but it's a pain. The only thing we use on it is a master page, the rest custom. We use MOSS 2007 internally for document management and as a collaboration portal. That works okay.
The management here says we should use moss 2010 for our new website's CMS system. 100% of the developers who actually work on the website HATE sharepoint, but there are some employees here who think sharepoint will work in theroy, but don't have any experience using it as a CMS system.
I've been googling around and it looks like Umbraco is a pretty popular solution. I was wondering if anyone had any specific examples of what Umbraco does better than sharepoint (a big one is being able to control the HTML output, i think umbraco lets you do this). If there are any resources that kinda has a bakeoff between the two that would help or any testimonials from people who have done both.
Speaking only from the umbraco side of things - it's a pure CMS and not an intranet/docstore/etc with cms abilities tacked on. If management need convincing then even the http://asp.net website is moving to umbraco soon.
I found a YouTube video relating to this post. This person seems to be connecting Sharepoint 2010 with Umbraco. That is exactly my interest, so if anybody else has attempted this, please let me know.
Think its a cool tool and way better to use these kind of tools than to create a public facing website using SharePoint. I think that sharepoint is great for an Intranet, but not for a website. At a previous company I worked a lot build Intranet sites and they were all behind the firewall. So I don't think tools like these can be used for that. I'm wondering how people deal with that?
Now when it comes to Umbraco vs SharePoint I must say it's not an easy choice unless you know exactly what you are looking for.
SharePoint got some obvoius benefits when it comes to large organizations with an existing it-infrastructure based on Microsoft platforms. Just beeing able to from scratch control users and their permissions from the top level to the single row level in a list through the exchange AD is an enormous strength.
And Umbraco being one of the most agile platforms in the business, but not very good when compared with SharePoint for collaboration.
I'd must say that combining them both would be the obvious choise for me, and when using an ADO.NET Adapter for SharePoint (like the one we make at Bendsoft) will make the integration a simple task, just as in the webcast.
Sharepoint vs Umbraco
Hey Guys, sorry if this is in the wrong forum. I couldn't find where I should put this.
My Company is looking to re-do our website external website. We are using Moss 2007 but it's a pain. The only thing we use on it is a master page, the rest custom. We use MOSS 2007 internally for document management and as a collaboration portal. That works okay.
The management here says we should use moss 2010 for our new website's CMS system. 100% of the developers who actually work on the website HATE sharepoint, but there are some employees here who think sharepoint will work in theroy, but don't have any experience using it as a CMS system.
I've been googling around and it looks like Umbraco is a pretty popular solution. I was wondering if anyone had any specific examples of what Umbraco does better than sharepoint (a big one is being able to control the HTML output, i think umbraco lets you do this). If there are any resources that kinda has a bakeoff between the two that would help or any testimonials from people who have done both.
thanks,
Nate
Some good answers here -> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1293912/sharepoint-cms-vs-umbracocms, although they relate to moss 2007.
Speaking only from the umbraco side of things - it's a pure CMS and not an intranet/docstore/etc with cms abilities tacked on. If management need convincing then even the http://asp.net website is moving to umbraco soon.
I found a YouTube video relating to this post. This person seems to be connecting Sharepoint 2010 with Umbraco. That is exactly my interest, so if anybody else has attempted this, please let me know.
Here's the YouTube link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xku09lxPaxA
Think its a cool tool and way better to use these kind of tools than to create a public facing website using SharePoint. I think that sharepoint is great for an Intranet, but not for a website. At a previous company I worked a lot build Intranet sites and they were all behind the firewall. So I don't think tools like these can be used for that. I'm wondering how people deal with that?
Cheers,
Richard
This may be a bit late but anyways for those of you reaching this post this might be interesting.
It was me recording the webcast Diane mentioned in her reply, and the product have evolved ever since. We recently released this packet; http://our.umbraco.org/projects/collaboration/sharepoint-document-library-integration-for-umbraco
Now when it comes to Umbraco vs SharePoint I must say it's not an easy choice unless you know exactly what you are looking for.
SharePoint got some obvoius benefits when it comes to large organizations with an existing it-infrastructure based on Microsoft platforms. Just beeing able to from scratch control users and their permissions from the top level to the single row level in a list through the exchange AD is an enormous strength.
And Umbraco being one of the most agile platforms in the business, but not very good when compared with SharePoint for collaboration.
I'd must say that combining them both would be the obvious choise for me, and when using an ADO.NET Adapter for SharePoint (like the one we make at Bendsoft) will make the integration a simple task, just as in the webcast.
Hi there,
Well this very interesting, we have the same arguement going on and will only say that Umbraco just does the work better in terms of website.
Anyway if you are still not convinced or need to convince your boss!! :) just have a look at this video.. http://codegarden11.com/sessions/day-2/slot-one/multi-environment-team-based-development-with-umbraco-at-microsoft.aspx
Regards
//fuji
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