There are several options for one who wish to include a search funcion on an Umbraco site. XsltSearch was my first choise and many times thats perfect. On one site I use UmbSearch2 which includes search results in PDF's very nice.
However - if I like the search to find, and only find, media referred to from pages, I cannot use either, afaik.
It would perhaps be possible to tweak XSLTsearch so it includes all file titles (from Media) of files referred from the pages. But that would demand some quite advanced XSLT as I see it (I also have lists that shows all files in a certain Media folder).
I don't know if UmbSearch2 (or Lucene for that matter) can be asked to only search visible files, and not the ones that arent referenced from some page.
Another thing is that both XsltSearch and UmbSearch2 requires me to specify which props they will search in, so whenever I change property structure (or which ones that are visible), I should give some thoughts of whether update my search property lists aswell..
So - I'm thinking : why not use Google search more? Thats built for searching only visible content from the start. And people are used to what it gives them. Still it seems kindof unusual to do that on umbraco-sites, why so, what am I missing here?
Yes, perhaps I am wrong and many use it, I have no statistics, but as a frequent forum reader I seldom read references to it. One negative thing about (public) Google search would be searching on protected pages. Think I will just go ahead and see what I can get from it.
It's not the nicest to hear "we find the pages/files using google, why arent we finding 'em using the search engine on the site?" :-)
Tom, thanks, interesting product. And valuable to hear that you have good experiences of it.
At first I hesitated cause of the hardware, "yet another server to keep running", but as I understand now they install and maintain everything. Budgetwise I need to know if I can run one Mini for several customers, or at least several sites for one customer. The latter should be okay I guess but several customers?
Search for everything visible on an Umbraco site
Hi!
There are several options for one who wish to include a search funcion on an Umbraco site. XsltSearch was my first choise and many times thats perfect. On one site I use UmbSearch2 which includes search results in PDF's very nice.
However - if I like the search to find, and only find, media referred to from pages, I cannot use either, afaik.
It would perhaps be possible to tweak XSLTsearch so it includes all file titles (from Media) of files referred from the pages. But that would demand some quite advanced XSLT as I see it (I also have lists that shows all files in a certain Media folder).
I don't know if UmbSearch2 (or Lucene for that matter) can be asked to only search visible files, and not the ones that arent referenced from some page.
Another thing is that both XsltSearch and UmbSearch2 requires me to specify which props they will search in, so whenever I change property structure (or which ones that are visible), I should give some thoughts of whether update my search property lists aswell..
So - I'm thinking : why not use Google search more? Thats built for searching only visible content from the start. And people are used to what it gives them. Still it seems kindof unusual to do that on umbraco-sites, why so, what am I missing here?
Regards
Jonas
Are you saying it's unusual on Umbraco sites because it is not often used, or because you have issues implementing it?
Yes, perhaps I am wrong and many use it, I have no statistics, but as a frequent forum reader I seldom read references to it. One negative thing about (public) Google search would be searching on protected pages. Think I will just go ahead and see what I can get from it.
It's not the nicest to hear "we find the pages/files using google, why arent we finding 'em using the search engine on the site?" :-)
A bit of topic, but I found this nice Google-powered Umbraco community search http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=006828407427845235189%3Au1fygyy_s54 while I was digging just now.
Jonas,
Not sure if you have the budget, but google mini is great and you can index multiple sites on one server and return their individual results.
I've implemented Google mini on loads of sites built in many CMS's.
There is no google branding on your search results, you can filter to index your selected pages, documents, sections of sites etc.
Google Mini
Tom
Tom, thanks, interesting product. And valuable to hear that you have good experiences of it.
At first I hesitated cause of the hardware, "yet another server to keep running", but as I understand now they install and maintain everything. Budgetwise I need to know if I can run one Mini for several customers, or at least several sites for one customer. The latter should be okay I guess but several customers?
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